Adelais Vermandois

Adelais Vermandois

Female Abt 954 - Aft 991  (> 38 years)


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  • Name Adelais Vermandois 
    Birth Abt 954  France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Female 
    Death Aft 991  Orléans, Centre, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I9815  footsteps | Ancestors
    Last Modified 21 Apr 2025 

    Father Robert Vermandois,   b. Abt 931   d. 29 Aug 968 (Age 37 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother Adelaide Werra Chalon, Comtesse de Vermandois ,   b. Abt 933, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 19 Aug 967, Seltz, Alsace, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 34 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Marriage 953  Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F5315  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Charles Carolingian,   b. 953, Laon, Picardie, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 21 May 992, Orléans, Centre, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 39 years) 
    Marriage 970 
    Children 
    +1. Gerberga Lorraine,   b. Abt 975, Lorraine, Alsace, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Aft 27 Jan 1019, Champagne, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age > 44 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
    Family ID F5329  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 21 Apr 2025 

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    • ==Biography==

      ===Birth, Parents, Siblings===
      Adelais de Troyes was born, say, 954. Her parents were married by 950, w h e n t h e ir oldest child was born. If she was the third, her estimated b i r t h w o uld be 954.
      There is some question about her parents, but they are most likely Robe r t d e V e r mandois and his wife Adelaide.
      One reason for the question is that she appears to have a sister with a s i m i l a r name. While in fact and in documents, Adela, Adele, Adelais, an d A d e l a ide are often used interchangeably, for the purposes of these si st e r s , t his sister is referred to as Adelais or Adelaide, while [[Verma n d o i s -351|the other sister]] is referred to as Adele or Adela.

      ===Marriage to Charles, Duke of Lorraine===
      Baldwin refers to her as the unnamed wife of Charles, duke of Lorraine a n d n o t e s that "This conjecture is based on a passage in Historia Franco r u m S e n onensis, which states that Charles married a daughter of count H e r i b e rt of Troyes." The Henry Project. Compiled by S t e w a r t Baldwin. First uploaded 23 May 2007. Revised version uploaded 2 4 A p r i l 2 008 (Added information on two supposed children Ad�la�de and A rc h e m b aud, plus additional minor corrections)[http://sbaldw.home.mindsp r i n g . com/hproject/prov/rober005.htm Robert].
      Accessed Feb 27, 2017. [[Day-1904|jhd]]

      Cawley eliminates Heribert, son of Robert, born about 950, as too young t o b e C h a r les' father in law. Cawley also eliminates H�ribert II Comte d e V e r m a ndois, father of Robert, who was not Comte de Troyes. Charles Cawley. Foundation for Medieval Genealogy. Medie v a l L a n d Database, Champagne - Troyes.[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ c h a m t royes.htm#Robertdied967 Robert] Accessed June 6, 2017. [[Day-1904 | j h d ] ]
      Baldwin notes that the same passage falsely makes Charles into a son of k i n g L o t hair, when he was in fact a brother and adds t h a t f o r c hronological reasons, Settipani conjectures that this unnamed w o m a n w a s instead a daughter of Robert Settipani (1993), 337-8, n. 1 0 1 0 , c i ted by Stewart Baldwin, Henry Project. Cawley, followin g S e t t i pani's conjecture, makes Charles' unnamed wife to be Adelais de T r o y e s , born between 950 and 951, died after 991), a second daughter of R o b e r t w ith a name similar to the first, who married about 970 Charles d e F r a n c e, son of Louis IV "d'Outremer" King of the Franks & his wife Ge rb e r g a v on Sachsen. Charle Cawley, Foundation for M e d i e v al Genealogy. Medieval Lands Database. [http://fmg.ac/Projects/M e d L a n ds/CHAMPAGNE%20NOBILITY.htm#dauRobertM970CharlesFrance Champagne N o b i l i ty]

      ===Charles===
      Charles de France was son of Louis IV "d'Outremer" King of the Franks a n d h i s w i fe Gerberga von Sachsen. Cawley, Foundation f o r M e d i eval Genealogy, Medieval Lands Database [http://fmg.ac/Projects/ M e d L a nds/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#Robertdied967A Northern France]

      Charles was born in Laon the summer of 953.
      He was in prison in Orl�ans after 991 and was buried in 1001 Maastricht , S t S e r v atius. He was invested as Duke of Lower Lotharingia by Emperor O t t o I I i n M ay 977.]

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