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- This Thomas Bryan DID NOT DIE on 7 October 1611. Thomas Bryan is ALIVE on 20th October 1611
This Thomas Bryan DID NOT DIE on 7 October 1611.
Thomas Bryan is ALIVE on 20th October 1611 when he writes his will. He has died before 5 November 1611 when his will is proven. Please stop adding the wrong death date. thankyou
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
Kinship
Direct ancestor (13 generations) (Melody Hopkins)
SURN Bryan GIVN Thomas NSFX * _UID 29CD
SURN Bryan GIVN Thomas NSFX * _UID 29CD12D5FAC2D6119B7200D009ABF77880F4 DATE 7 Nov 2002 TIME 00:00:00
!Archive sheet for Thomas Bryan (DRAPER)
!Archive sheet for Thomas Bryan (DRAPER)
"History of the Wheeler Family in Americ
"History of the Wheeler Family in America"
!SOURCE: The following sources are liste
!SOURCE: The following sources are listed on the archive sheet, submitted by Mrs. Rebecca Scott, 2407 S. 6th Ave., Arcadia, Calif.: The Genealogist, vol. 9-10, by Jacobus, Conn., N. 2b. Miner Genealogy, p.81. Genealogies of Woodstock Families, p.323 of 2, (Conn. 511 - W 1661). COMMENTS: Check these sources out and check Ancestral File. NOTE: Last child might be from 2nd marriage -- check this out.
Thomas Bryan names 13 living children in his will of 1611. there is NO Sarah or Alice
It appears someone has deleted the relationship of 14 legitimate children, to be replaced by a Sarah Bryan, who is NOT a child of Thomas Bryan and Frances Bowling, although many family trees, and even published books claim that she is. Sarah Bryan, who married Sylvester Baldwin, has unknown parents at this time. She is NOT mentioned in the will of Thomas Bryan who does name 13 living children: Judith, Austen, Alexander, Elizabeth, Rebecca, Faithe, Annys[Amy], Frances, Mary, Anne, Thomas, Robert, William
Someone has also added Alice Bryan, who married Thomas Oviatt. Alice is Not mentioned as a daughter
Extract of the PCC Will of Thomas Bryan, draper of Aylesbury 1611
Will of Thomas Brian or Bryan, Draper of Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire
Prerogative Court of Canterbury and related Probate Jurisdictions: Will Registers. Name of Register: Wood Quire Numbers: 59 - 108. Will of Thomas Brian or Bryan, Draper of Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire.
Held by: The National Archives - Prerogative Court of Canterbury
Date: 05 November 1611
Reference: PROB 11/118/330
ThomasBrianDraperAylesburie, Berkshire20th October 16115th November 1611
-daughter Judith Springall or Springatt
-sons Austen and Alexander
-daughters Elizabeth, Rebecca, Faithe, Annys(Amy), Frances, Marye, and Anne
-son Thomas Bryan
-son Robert Bryan
-son William
-kinswoman Marye Henshawe
-wife Frances
/
PCC will 1611
ThomasBryanOr BrianAylesburye, Buckinghamshire8th February 1611Sentence
-daughter Judith Springall or Springatt?
-sons Austen and Alexander when they reach 21
-daughters Elizabeth, Rebecca, Faithe, Amys, Frances, Mary, and Anne
-son Thomas Brian
-son Robert Brian
-son William
-Mary Henshawe my kinswoman(one of the Bowling's married an Edward Henshawe in 1579)
-wife Frances
-Thomas Bowlinge and Henry Bowlinge my brothers (brother in laws) to be overseers
extract by Carol Hutchinson
actual image found at ancestry.com
Ancestry File submitted by Deborah Contr
Ancestry File submitted by Deborah Contras
ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY
ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
Date and Location are generated
Date and Location are generated
! INFORMATION FROM PEDIGREE OF MELVIN HA
! INFORMATION FROM PEDIGREE OF MELVIN HALL. FAMILY GROUP RECORD OF SYLVESTER BALDWIN AND SARAH BRYANT OR BRYAN BASSETT "PRESTON ANCESTRY" B9C37 P 40, 78 BALDWIN GENEALOGY. ! RELATIONSHIP: Patron, H. Reed Black, is 10th G G Son.
! Thomas had two wives: (1) Unknown; (2)
! Thomas had two wives: (1) Unknown; (2) Frances Bowling. In the AF, there are 17 children all listed as children of Frances Bowlinge, all born by date after their marriage in 1586. This seems to be a huge family for one woman. ! References: AF
Question about the father of Sarah Bryan.
Note
! Will dated 20 Nov 1669 and found in New Haven probate. Death and burial Dates from Mortality List of Rev. Erastus Scranton & MVR. ! Sarah and her six? surviving children arrived at Milford abt 1639. ! She md. (2) 1640, to Capt. John Astwood and was admitted to the Milford 1st Ch the same yr. He was one of the 7 Pillars of the Ch. & Capt. of the trained band in 1644. ! Refs. state that she was dau/o Thomas Bryan (b. bef 1564-bu Eng, 7 Oct 1611) and his second wife Frances Bowling( b ca 1570). However, "Families of Early Milford," pg. 123, lists 21 children as his and Frances', no Sarah, and starred 13 of them as having been mentioned in his will. TAG 9:89-90 gives an abstract of his will, and it does not mention a daughter Sarah. I feel she must be from another family. His lineage goes back one more gen. in Families of Early Milford. There are several explanations: There are two daughters Faith and Sarah who did not have baptismal records in Aylesbury. Could they have lived elsewhere for 3 or 4 years? She might not have been mentioned in the father's will if she had already received her inheritance. There also could have been another Thomas in Aston Clint who was her father. ! ADDITIONAL REFERENCES: Families of Early Milford, Abbott. Balwin Geneal. TAG 9:89-90; 10:90-100, "The Bryans of Aylesbury." AF -- 3517-Q9.
Modified
26 August 2013 by edmondphyatt [ahdavis2721962]
!The Genealogist by Jacobus Vol 9410, M
!The Genealogist by Jacobus Vol 9410, Miner Genealogy p. 81, Genealogies of Woodstock Families p 323 Vol 2,
Line in Record @I03987@ (RIN 3944) from
Line in Record @I03987@ (RIN 3944) from GEDCOM file not recognized: FAMILY_SPOUSE @F1625@ Line in Record @I03987@ (RIN 3944) from GEDCOM file not recognized: FAMILY_CHILD @F1702@
DOCUMENTS: WILL-His will was dated Oct
DOCUMENTS: WILL-His will was dated Oct 10, 1611 and proved the following Nov. 5th by "Frances the relict and sole executrix". The testor describes himself as "Thomas BRYAN of Aylesbury in the county of Bucks, draper". He was a dealer in cotton and woolen goods and belonged to the merchant class. From his will we learn of his children. Those marked * are mentioned. He also mentions land in Waltonfield and Griffin Orchard.
as Thomas Bryan wrote his will on the 20th of October 1611, he could not have died the 7th of October 1611
as Thomas Bryan wrote his will on the 20th of October 1611, he could not have died the 7th of October 1611
Francis/Bowling; md 13 Jun 1586
Francis/Bowling; md 13 Jun 1586
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
1. The Genealogist Vol 9-10 by Jacobus.
1. The Genealogist Vol 9-10 by Jacobus. 2. Miner Genealogy p.81. Genealogies of Woodstock Families p.323- Vol 2. 3. Family Sub: Mrs. Rebecca Scott, 2407 So. 6th Ave, Arcadia, California. Pasadena Stake. Monrovia Ward. 4. Daniel Jacques 7 gg son.
Draper The Geneologist v. 9-10 by Jacobu
Draper The Geneologist v. 9-10 by Jacobus Miner Geneology p81; Geneologies of Woodstock Families p323 v.2;Draper The Geneologist v. 9-10 by Jacobus Miner Geneology p81; Geneologies of Woodstock Families p323 v.2;
!WILL DATED 1611. LDS ARCHIVE RECORD DOC
!WILL DATED 1611. LDS ARCHIVE RECORD DOCUMENTATION: THE GEN. VOL. 9-10 BY JACOBUS; MINER GEN, PAGE 81; GEN. OF WOODSTOCK FAMILIES, PAGE 323, VOL 2. HIS TITLE WAS GIVEN AS "DRAPER."
died between 20 October 1611 and 5 November 1611 at Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire
will written 20 October 1611, and will proved 5 November 1611, so Thomas Bryan died between those 2 dates
This Thomas Bryan DID NOT DIE on 7 October 1611. Thomas Bryan is ALIVE on 20th October 1611
This Thomas Bryan DID NOT DIE on 7 October 1611.
Thomas Bryan is ALIVE on 20th October 1611 when he writes his will. He has died before 5 November 1611 when his will is proven. Please stop adding the wrong death date. thankyou
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as o f 2 January 1996.
Kinship
Direct ancestor (13 generations) (Melody Hopkins)
SURN Bryan GIVN Thomas NSFX * _UID 29CD
SURN Bryan GIVN Thomas NSFX * _UID 29CD12D5FAC2D6119B7200D009ABF77880F4 DATE 7 Nov 2002 TIME 00:00:00
!Archive sheet for Thomas Bryan (DRAPER)
!Archive sheet for Thomas Bryan (DRAPER)
"History of the Wheeler Family in Americ
"History of the Wheeler Family in America"
!SOURCE: The following sources are liste
!SOURCE: The following sources are listed on the archive sheet, submitted by Mrs. Rebecca Scott, 2407 S. 6th Ave., Arcadia, Calif.: The Genealogist, vol. 9-10, by Jacobus, Conn., N. 2b. Miner Genealogy, p.81. Genealogies of Woodstock Families, p.3 23 of 2, (Conn. 511 - W 1661). COMMENTS: Check these sources out and check Ancestral File. NOTE: Last child might be from 2nd marriage -- check this out.
Thomas Bryan names 13 living children in his will of 1611. there is NO Sarah or Alice
It appears someone has deleted the relationship of 14 legitimate children, to be replaced by a Sarah Bryan, who is NOT a child of Thomas Bryan and Frances Bowling, although many family trees, and even published books claim that she is. Sarah Brya n, who married Sylvester Baldwin, has unknown parents at this time. She is NOT mentioned in the will of Thomas Bryan who does name 13 living children: Judith, Austen, Alexander, Elizabeth, Rebecca, Faithe, Annys[Amy], Frances, Mary, Anne, Thomas , Robert, William
Someone has also added Alice Bryan, who married Thomas Oviatt. Alice is Not mentioned as a daughter
Extract of the PCC Will of Thomas Bryan, draper of Aylesbury 1611
Will of Thomas Brian or Bryan, Draper of Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire
Prerogative Court of Canterbury and related Probate Jurisdictions: Will Registers. Name of Register: Wood Quire Numbers: 59 - 108. Will of Thomas Brian or Bryan, Draper of Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire.
Held by: The National Archives - Prerogative Court of Canterbury
Date: 05 November 1611
Reference: PROB 11/118/330
ThomasBrianDraperAylesburie, Berkshire20th October 16115th November 1611
-daughter Judith Springall or Springatt
-sons Austen and Alexander
-daughters Elizabeth, Rebecca, Faithe, Annys(Amy), Frances, Marye, and Anne
-son Thomas Bryan
-son Robert Bryan
-son William
-kinswoman Marye Henshawe
-wife Frances
/
PCC will 1611
ThomasBryanOr BrianAylesburye, Buckinghamshire8th February 1611Sentence
-daughter Judith Springall or Springatt?
-sons Austen and Alexander when they reach 21
-daughters Elizabeth, Rebecca, Faithe, Amys, Frances, Mary, and Anne
-son Thomas Brian
-son Robert Brian
-son William
-Mary Henshawe my kinswoman(one of the Bowling's married an Edward Henshawe in 1579)
-wife Frances
-Thomas Bowlinge and Henry Bowlinge my brothers (brother in laws) to be overseers
extract by Carol Hutchinson
actual image found at ancestry.com
Ancestry File submitted by Deborah Contr
Ancestry File submitted by Deborah Contras
ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY
ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
Date and Location are generated
Date and Location are generated
! INFORMATION FROM PEDIGREE OF MELVIN HA
! INFORMATION FROM PEDIGREE OF MELVIN HALL. FAMILY GROUP RECORD OF SYLVESTER BALDWIN AND SARAH BRYANT OR BRYAN BASSETT "PRESTON ANCESTRY" B9C37 P 40, 78 BALDWIN GENEALOGY. ! RELATIONSHIP: Patron, H. Reed Black, is 10th G G Son.
! Thomas had two wives: (1) Unknown; (2)
! Thomas had two wives: (1) Unknown; (2) Frances Bowling. In the AF, there are 17 children all listed as children of Frances Bowlinge, all born by date after their marriage in 1586. This seems to be a huge family for one woman. ! References: AF
Question about the father of Sarah Bryan.
Note
! Will dated 20 Nov 1669 and found in New Haven probate. Death and burial Dates from Mortality List of Rev. Erastus Scranton & MVR. ! Sarah and her six? surviving children arrived at Milford abt 1639. ! She md. (2) 1640, to Capt. John Astwood an d was admitted to the Milford 1st Ch the same yr. He was one of the 7 Pillars of the Ch. & Capt. of the trained band in 1644. ! Refs. state that she was dau/o Thomas Bryan (b. bef 1564-bu Eng, 7 Oct 1611) and his second wife Frances Bowling( b c a 1570). However, "Families of Early Milford," pg. 123, lists 21 children as his and Frances', no Sarah, and starred 13 of them as having been mentioned in his will. TAG 9:89-90 gives an abstract of his will, and it does not mention a daughter S arah. I feel she must be from another family. His lineage goes back one more gen. in Families of Early Milford. There are several explanations: There are two daughters Faith and Sarah who did not have baptismal records in Aylesbury. Could the y have lived elsewhere for 3 or 4 years? She might not have been mentioned in the father's will if she had already received her inheritance. There also could have been another Thomas in Aston Clint who was her father. ! ADDITIONAL REFERENCES: Fam ilies of Early Milford, Abbott. Balwin Geneal. TAG 9:89-90; 10:90-100, "The Bryans of Aylesbury." AF -- 3517-Q9.
Modified
26 August 2013 by edmondphyatt [ahdavis2721962]
!The Genealogist by Jacobus Vol 9410, M
!The Genealogist by Jacobus Vol 9410, Miner Genealogy p. 81, Genealogies of Woodstock Families p 323 Vol 2,
Line in Record @I03987@ (RIN 3944) from
Line in Record @I03987@ (RIN 3944) from GEDCOM file not recognized: FAMILY_SPOUSE @F1625@ Line in Record @I03987@ (RIN 3944) from GEDCOM file not recognized: FAMILY_CHILD @F1702@
DOCUMENTS: WILL-His will was dated Oct
DOCUMENTS: WILL-His will was dated Oct 10, 1611 and proved the following Nov. 5th by "Frances the relict and sole executrix". The testor describes himself as "Thomas BRYAN of Aylesbury in th e county of Bucks, draper". He was a dealer in cotton and woolen goods and belonged to the merchant class. From his will we learn of his children. Those marked * are mentioned. He als o mentions land in Waltonfield and Griffin Orchard.
as Thomas Bryan wrote his will on the 20th of October 1611, he could not have died the 7th of October 1611
as Thomas Bryan wrote his will on the 20th of October 1611, he could not have died the 7th of October 1611
Francis/Bowling; md 13 Jun 1586
Francis/Bowling; md 13 Jun 1586
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
1. The Genealogist Vol 9-10 by Jacobus.
1. The Genealogist Vol 9-10 by Jacobus. 2. Miner Genealogy p.81. Genealogies of Woodstock Families p.323- Vol 2. 3. Family Sub: Mrs. Rebecca Scott, 2407 So. 6th Ave, Arcadia, California. Pasadena Stake. Monrovia Ward. 4. Daniel Jacques 7 gg son.
Draper The Geneologist v. 9-10 by Jacobu
Draper The Geneologist v. 9-10 by Jacobus Miner Geneology p81; Geneologies of Woodstock Families p323 v.2;Draper The Geneologist v. 9-10 by Jacobus Miner Geneology p81; Geneologies of Woodstock Families p323 v.2;
!WILL DATED 1611. LDS ARCHIVE RECORD DOC
!WILL DATED 1611. LDS ARCHIVE RECORD DOCUMENTATION: THE GEN. VOL. 9-10 BY JACOBUS; MINER GEN, PAGE 81; GEN. OF WOODSTOCK FAMILIES, PAGE 323, VOL 2. HIS TITLE WAS GIVEN AS "DRAPER."
died between 20 October 1611 and 5 November 1611 at Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire
will written 20 October 1611, and will proved 5 November 1611, so Thomas Bryan died between those 2 dates
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1554 - Aft 1611 (> 57 years)