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- [S273] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch FamilyTree, Link to image on Ancestry. Image 44, left p. 93, left.
Marriage intentions https://search.ancestry.com/collections/2056/records/616532
Date on record is 14 March 1636.
It is old style because image 3 (p. 53) is dated Dec 1636, and p. 56 is dated Jan. 1636.
Images 1 and 2 (pages 159-160) were filmed or bound out of sequence.
Partial Transcription
"14 March 1636
Which day appeard personally John Hicke of parish of St in Southwark Salter and a bachelor aged about 23 years and alledged that he intendeth to marrie Miss Harwood Long Spinster aged about 21 years the daughter of William Long Husbandman who giveth his consent to this intended marriage … license to be married in the parish church of St ffaith London.
John Hickes"
That her father gave permission is probably a lie as is her age. She stated in a RI court that after her father's death, that "I was upon the death of my father sent to London by my mother in much sorrow and griefe of spiritt, and there taken by on John Hicks unknowne to any of my friends, and by the said Hicks privately married in the under Church of Paules, called St. Faith's Church, and in a little while after, to my great griefe, brought to New England, when I was between thirteene and fourteene years of age." If her father is the Robert Long as is sometimes alleged, who emigrated in 1635 (Great Migration, Vol. 4) to Massachusetts, then he could not have given his permission. The only signature on the original is that of John Hicks.
Given the circumstances of the marriage intentions where she was underaged, the testimony in Rhode Island is most likely the more reliable. Her father likely died before 1637 and was not the Robert Long who emigrated to New England.
- [S273] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch FamilyTree, Various libraries, on sale online. By Richard Archer.
There is an entire chapter devoted to Herodias Long Hicks Gardiner.
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https://ark.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/4:1:G72P-5H4
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https://search.ancestry.com/collections/7486/records/4182895
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https://search.ancestry.com/collections/61157/records/3311206
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1655
Hicks-Long. John Hicks of Flushing, Long Island, petitioned the Council of New Netherland in 1655 for a divorce, based on his wife, Harwood Long, "having run away and married another man [in Rhode Island], by whom she had five or six children." The Council granted the divorce on 1 June, 1655, with permission to remarry.
- [S273] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch FamilyTree, Book Title: Ancestors and descendants of Daniel Gardner V and Mary (Hodges) Gardner, late of Champaign, Illinoi.
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=61157&h=749836&indiv=try
- [S273] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch FamilyTree, Ancestry.com - London and Surrey, England, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1597-1921.
1636 is probably the old style year.
14th March 1636 - Wch daie, appeared p'sonally John Hicke of ye parish of St. Olaves in Southwark Salter and a batchelour aged about 23 yeares and alledged that he intendeth to marrie with Harwood Long spinster aged about 21 yeares ye daughter of William Long Husbandman who giveth his Consent to this intended marriage And of ye truth of the premises as also that he knows of no Lawfull let or impediment by reason of anie prior contract Consaguinity affinitie or otherwise to hinder this intended marriage he made faith and desires license to be married in ye parish Church of St. ffaith London. [signed] John Hickes
- [S273] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch FamilyTree, Robinson, C. Elizabeth Rodman., Goodwin, D. (1919). The Gardiners of Narragansett: being a genealogy of the descendants of George Gardiner. Providence: The editor.
page 2:
"Henry Gardiner, was born about 1645, and died April 26, 1744. He married, first, Joan ___, and second, Abigail, a daughter of Edward and Abigail (Davis) Richmond and the widow of John Remington. "
page 4:
"William Gardiner, (born in 1671, died Dec. 14, 1732), married Abigail, a daughter of John and Abigail (Richmond) Remington. She was born in 1681. "
page 24:
William and Elizabeth Gardiner with list of children and other information.
- [S273] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch FamilyTree, "The Gardiners of Narragansett : being a genealogy of the descendants of George Gardiner, the colonist, 1638, " compiled by Caroline E. Roinsond. with notes and index by Daniel Goodwin, Editor (Published in Providence, RI. 1919; reprinted by Forgotten Books, 2013)FHL Film #400761.
COMMENTS BY THE EDITOR:
At the time of the decease of Mrs. Robinson, July 7, 1906, her "Genealogy of the Gardiner Family," comprising the labor of years, had been substantially completed. Without doubt, however, had her life been prolonged, she would, from time to time, through further research and by means of opportune discoveries, have made valuable additions to the work.
Nor can it be questioned that she regarded the result of her patient toil rather as an honest contribution to a recognized intricate problem, to be farther elucidated by the study of others, than as a final and complete treatment of the subject. No one more readily than the Author herself would have acknowledged that there are in the book, from the very nature of the case, where information is largely gathered from unwritten family tradition, considerable matter of a tentative and even conjectural character, and probably a few assignments of individuals to groups, to be ultimately found inaccurate.
But in view of the great mass of invaluable material collected by the Author, the loss of which, if left unpublished, would prove irreparable, it has been judged expedient to print the manuscript as Mrs. Robinson left it, with only such corrections of mere clerical errors as she would herself have made, had she been spared to put it through the press.
Wherever she has apparently come to a deliberate decision, even if the Editor has reluctantly found reason to question its accuracy, he has permitted it to stand, relegating to Notes, towards the end of the book, the grounds of his dissent and such further light upon the question as may have come to his knowledge.C
Beyond the point of a faithful rendering of the manuscript, he does not assume responsibility for the correctness of the body of the work.
The Editor gratefully expresses his appreciation of very valuable and extensive assistance supplied by Mrs. Louise Prosser Bates, of Oaklawn, Rhode Island, Mrs. W. H. Birckhead, of New York, and Mrs. H. F. Hunt, of Kingston, Rhode Island, the latter having also very courteously contributed the likeness of Doctor Sylvester Gardiner, inserted opposite the Title-page.
- [S273] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch FamilyTree, Article: "The Parentage of George Gardiner of Newport, R. I.," by G. Andrews MoriarityA.M., LL.B., F.A.S.G., F.S.A. (The American Genealogist, Jan. 1945, vol. 21, no. 3, pp1 91-200).
Explains why it is highly unlikely that George Gardiner of Newport, R. I. is the son of Rev Michael Gardiner.
- [S273] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch FamilyTree, G Andrews Moriarty. “Herodias (Long) Hicks-Gardiner-Porter A Tale of Old Newport.” Rhode Island History 11, no. 3 (July 1952): 84-92.image copy, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/531579-rhode-island-history-v-11-no-3-july-1952), images 22-30.
Includes transcription and translation from an manuscript of the New Netherland's divorce of John Hicks and Herodias (pp. 85-86). Shows that the John Hicks of Long Island is the same John Hicks of Rhode Island who was married to Herodias.
(Originally added to sources by DorothyStuartHall1 in 2014.)
- [S273] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch FamilyTree, Online at www.rebelpuritan.com or in the book, Rebel Puritan, A Scandalous Life by Joann Butler.
"Here is all of the information I have found about Herodias in colonial
and historical records, along with information about her contemporaries;
Mary Dyer, Anne Hutchinson, and William Coddington, to name a few.
You will also find extensive information about Herodias's three
husbands - John Hicks, George Gardner/Gardiner, and John Porter -
as well as her children."
- [S273] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch FamilyTree, Source InformationAncestry.com. U.S., New England Marriages Prior to 1700 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2012.Original data: Torry, Clarence A. New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2004..
Name: George Gardiner
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: About 1645
Death Year: About 1677
Marriage Place: New England, United States
Spouse's Name: Herodias Long
[Herodias Hicks]
- [S273] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch FamilyTree, "Harwood Long (abt. 1616." bef. 1705) ID/Link/URL/Cite/UserID16° https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Long-161. Accessed 16 Feb. 2024.
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- [S273] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch FamilyTree, Source CitationGenealogical Publishing Co.; Baltimore, MD, USA; Volume Title: New England Marriages Prior to 1700DescriptionVolume Title: New England Marriages Prior to 1700Source InformationAncestry.com. U.S., New England Marriages Prior to 1700 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2012.Original data:Torry, Clarence A. New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2004.
Name
Herodias Gardiner
Maiden Name
Long
Gender
Female
Marriage Date
About 1645
Marriage Place
New England, USA
Spouse George Gardiner
- [S273] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch FamilyTree, Clara Gardner Miller and John M Stanton. Gardiner-Gardner Genealogy: Including the English Ancestry of George Gardiner Immigrant Ancestor of Newport, RI. Rutland VT: The Tuttle Publishing Co., 1937.
Secondary source. Compiled genealogical interpretation.
Miller and Stanton claim (page 23) George Gardiner of Newport, RI, was the youngest child of Rev. Michael Gardiner and Margaret Browne. According to Miller and Stanton, this George Gardiner, baptized at Greenford Magna, Middlesex, England on 15 Feb 1599, is the same George Gardiner who married Sara Slaughter at St. James church, Clerkenwell, London, on 29 March 1630.
Miller and Stanton further claim George, son of Rev. Michael (bp. 1599), and Sara Slaughter (md. 1630) were the parents of Benoni Gardiner, born in 1636, died 1731.
Miller and Stanton state that George of Greenford Magna, who married at Clerkenwell, had three brothers and several cousins. About 1637, according to Miller and Stanton, George Gardiner emigrated to New England and is the same George Gardiner who married Herod Long and lived in Newport, RI. No sources are produced linking George Gardiner of Greenford Magna (perhaps the same person who married at Clerkenwell) with George Gardiner of Massachusetts and Rhode Island.
- [S273] FamilySearch.org, FamilySearch FamilyTree, NYGBR (70:116) [Apr 1939] Article by Josephine C. Frost.
From a manuscript in the Rhode Island Historical Society. Author states that "legal papers relating to private cases" were left out of the published transcriptions of the early acts of the General Assembly.
"1643, Dec. 3, Harwood Hicks divorced from John Hicks.
These witnesseth that in the year 1643, Dec. 3, Harwood Hicks, wife of John Hicks, made her complaint to us of many grievances and extreme violence that her husband used towards her, upon which she desires to be -------- of him; upon examination whereof we found such ---- of her complainte by his inhuman and barbarous carriages, such cruel blows on diver [sic] parts of her body, and so many other like cruelties, that we, fearing the ---- & ---- of such barbarous cruelties, murthering, -----, -----, hanging, and loss of limbs, could not but bind him to the peace, moreover we found him to be so bitterly enraged, and so desperate in his expressions upon the poor woman, --------, chose rather to subject herself to any misery rather than to live with him. He also was desirous thereof and she solicited us to part them with such ------. We there diligently observing and weighting with the most ----- ----- and concluded that it were better, yes, far better, for them to be separated or divorced, than to live such , being in such perfect hatred one of another and to avoid and prevent ------ hazard and --------, yet observe, knowing how odious the act was amongst men, refuseth to order their separation, but both of them ----- should be theirs wherein if they agree we would be witnesses thereof, upon which they came to an accord and declared it to us, which we do accordingly testify to the same, being persuaded that God had separated them, ------ to be free of the marriage bond before God, now we being Majestrates ---- for the year, and by order we are to walk according to the laws of England, declare them hereby separate.
In witness whereof we have set our hands. William Coddington
Test. William Dyre, General Recorder. John Coggeshall
Nicholas Easton
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In this article, Moriarty responded to claims by Miller and Stanton (1937) that George Gardiner of Newport, RI was 1) born 15 Feb 1599/1600 as the son of Rev. Michael Gardiner of Greenford Magna (Great Greenford), Middlesex, England; 2) George Gardiner who married Sara Slaughter in Clerkenwell, London. In a detailed assessment of the evidence, Moriarty concludes that while George Gardiner of Newport has a similar name, there is no hard evidence connecting him to George Gardiner of Greenford Magna. Name similarity is not enough to justify the identification. Moriarty held that the burden of proof was on those who want to make a connection. See his conclusion on page 200: "...until more evidence, both of a positive and negative nature, is forthcoming, no critical genealogist can accept the identification of George Gardiner, son of the Rev Michael Gardiner, with George Gardiner of Newport, as proved."
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