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Provides one line of descent from Charlemagne to William the Conqueror a n d f o u r l ines of descent from Charlemagne to William's wife Maud.
[[Category:Charlemagne to William the Conqueror Descent]]
==Line of Descent to William the Conqueror==
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}Douglas Richardson [ Douglas Richardson. Royal Ance s t r y : A S tudy in Colonial and Medieval Families. Kimball G Everingham, E d i t o r . Salt Lake City, Utah: By the Author, 2013. Volume V, p. 485-4 8 6 < / r e f> provides one line of descent from Charlemagne to William the C o n q u e ror and four lines of descent from Charlemagne to William's wife M a u d .]
:Parent: [[Vermandois-1|Robert]], 931-968
:This profile: [[Vermandois-351|Adele]], 950-984
:Child: [[Anjou-2|Ermengarde]], 966-992
== Biography ==
===Disambiguation===
[[Vermandois-351|Ad�le de Meaux]] is not [[Unknown-313332|Ad�la�de de C h �lons]]. [[Vermandois-351|Ad�le]] married [[Anjou-20|Geoffroy I Grise g o n e l le]], d. 987, count of Anjou, while [[Unknown-313332|Ad�la�de]] ma r r i e d [ [Dijon-7|Lambert, Comte de Chalon]], who died probably 978. The c o n f u s ion arises because after [[Vermandois-351|Adele's]] death, and aft e r [ [ D i jon-7|Lambert's]] death, Lambert's widow, [[Unknown-313332|Ad�la �de ] ] d i d marry [[Anjou-20|Geoffroy I Grisegonelle]].
===Name===
*Adela Vermandois
*Adele of Troyes,
*Ad�le de Troyes. *Adele of Meaux [ W i k i p e dia. Adele of Meaux. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adele_of_Meau x . A c c e ssed May 4, 2017. [[Day-1904|jhd]] ]
*Ad�le or Adela de Meaux,
To distinguish her from her possible sister, Ad�le or Adela will be use d f o r t h i s person, and Adelais or Adelaide for her sister, although in p r a c t i ce, all four names tend to function interchangeably.
===950 Birth and Parentage===
Baldwin states that both the date and place of birth of Adele of Troyes a r e u n k n own.
Cawley estimates a birth year of 950 [ Charles Cawl e y . F o u ndation for Medieval Genealogy. Medieval Lands Database, Champ a g n e - T r oyes. [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamtroyes.htm#Robertdi e d 9 6 7 R obert of Vermandois]. Accessed June 6, 2017. [[Day-1904|jhd]] < / r e f > o r before 950 ][ Charles Cawley. Foundation f o r M e d i eval Genealogy Medieval Lands Database. [http://fmg.ac/Project s / M e d Lands/ANJOU,%20MAINE.htm#GeoffroyIdied987B fmg.ac][http://sbaldw.h o m e . m indspring.com/hproject/prov/adela001.htm Adela de Meaux]. ] W i k i p e dia shows her birth year as about 934 without further citation, but that date is not consistent with the 931 birth yea r o f h e r f a ther Robert.
Adele of Troyes was the daughter of Robert, Count of Meaux and his wife A d e l a i s, alias Werra. daughter of Giselbert, count o f C h a l o n and Troyes. [ Detlev Schwennicke, Europ �i s c h e S tammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europ�ischen Staaten , N e u e F o lge, Band III Teilband 1 (Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. S ta r g a r dt, 1984), Tafel 49. Cited by Wikipedia. Adele of Meaux. https : / / e n .wikipedia.org/wiki/Adele_of_Meaux. Accessed May 4, 2017. [[Day- 1 9 0 4 | jhd]] ]
Cawley notes that she was long regarded as the sister of Robert and the r e f o r e daughter of Heribert, but that recently, historian K.F. Werner s h o w e d t hat she is instead his daughter. Cawley e s t i m a tes a marriage year of 965 based on the birth year of her eldest d a u g h t er. Baldwin states that she is sometime fa l s e l y s hown as the daughter of Heribert II, who died in 943, count of V e r m a n dois, who was actually her grandfather. Bald w i n g o e s on to identify scholars who have asserted that, including Mabi l l e . < r ef> �mile Mabille, Introduction au Chroniques des Comtes d'Anjou ( S o c i �t� de l'Histoire de France, vol. 155, Paris, 1871). Cited by Stew a r t B a l dwin, The Henry Project. Ad�le de Troyes http://sbaldw.home.min d s p r i ng.com/hproject/prov/adele001.htm. First Uploaded 23 May 2007, re v i s e d 2 4 April 2008. Accessed June 6, 2017. [[Day-1904|jhd]]
Baldwin notes that the major medieval source for Ad�le's parentage is a n e l e v e nth century collection of Angevin genealogies, which includes a g e n e a l ogical table of Ad�le's relatives and clearly makes her a daughter o f c o u n t R obert of Troyes. The count Heribert who witnessed the 974 cha rt e r c o u ld not be Heribert II, who died in 943, but either Heribert II' s s o n H e r ibert le Vieux, count of Omois, or the latter's nephew Heriber t l e J e u n e, son of count Robert of Meaux and Troyes. Furthermore, mak in g t h i s A dele to be the daughter of Heribert II would require him to h a ve t w o d a ughters of the same name, since he already has a well documen t ed d a u g hter, Ad�le.
===965 Marriage to Geoffroi===
About 965 she married, as his first wife, [[Anjou-20|Geoffroi I Grisego n e l l e ]], Count of Anjou (958/960-987), Count of Chalon (979-987), son o f F o u l q ues II the Good, Count of Anjoy, by his wife Gerberge. Geoffroy I "Grisegonelle" Comte d'Anjou, was son of Foulq u e s I I C o mte d'Anjou and his first wife Gerberge [de Maine] (-21 Jul 9 8 7 ) < r e f name="fmgadela"/>[ Stewart Baldwin. The Hen r y P r o j ect.]
[http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/adele001.htm Adele]Fir s t u p l o aded 23 May 2007, Minor revision uploaded 24 April 2008. Based o n t h e f o l lowing bibliography:*Cart. S.-Aubin = Bertrand de Broussillon, C a r t u l aire de l'abbaye de Saint-Aubin d'Angers, 3 vols. (Angers, 1903).* L o t ( 1 9 01) = Ferdinand Lot, "Herbert le Jeune et la succession des comt �s c h a mpenois", Annales de l'Est 15 (1901), 265-283.*Mabille (1871) = �m i l e M a bille, Introduction au Chroniques des Comtes d'Anjou (Soci�t� de l ' H i s t oire de France, vol. 155, Paris, 1871).*Poupardin (1900) = Ren� Po u p a r d in, "G�n�alogies angevines du XIe si�cle", M�langes d'Arch�ologie e t d ' H i s toire (Paris, Rome) 20 (1900):199-208.
===974 Charter===
In a charter dated 6 March 974, Ad�le donated her hereditary domains to S a i n t - Aubin in Angers. Witnesses included, among others, her husband Geo f f r o y , sons Foulques and Geoffroy, and count Heribert .
===978 Death===
Adela de Meaux, who was living at the time of the 6 Mar 974 charter, di e d s o m e t ime after that. Her actual date and place of d e a t h i s u nknown.
Since her husband remarried in 979, a death date for Adela of 978 is a p l a u s i ble estimate. Bachrach gives a death year of 982 [ Bernard S . B a c h r ach, Fulk Nerra the Neo-Roman Consul, 987-1040 (Berkeley & Los A ng e l e s : University of California Press, 1993), p. 11 Cited by Wikipedia . A d e l e o f Meaux. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adele_of_Meaux. Acce sse d M a y 4 , 2 017. [[Day-1904|jhd]] ] which would appear contradic te d b y t h e 9 79 remarriage.
Wikipedia reports that she was buried in the St. Aubin Abbey, Angers.
===979 Husband's Second Marriage===
After Adela's death, Geoffroy married, second, on 2 or 9 Mar 979, Ade l a i s , w idow of Lambert Comte de Chalon, and they had one child: Maurice . < r e f n ame="fmgadela"/> Lambert I, Count of Chalon-sur-Saone, died 22 F e b 9 7 8 . < ref name="ra5485"/>
===987 Geoffroi's Death===
Geoffroi I, Count of Anjou, in turn was slain in battle at Marcon (near C h a t e a u-du-Loir) 21 July 987, and was buried at Saint-Martin de Tours. H i s w i d o w, the second Adele, was living in 999.
==Issue==
===Documented Children===
Geoffroi and Adele had two sons and two daughters b o r n b e t ween 965, when they married, and 978, her presumed date of death . G e o f f roi and his second wife Adelais had a son, Maurice.
Douglas Richardson simply dates the births of all four children as betw e e n 9 6 5 a nd 974.
#[[Anjou-2|Ermengarde de Bretagne]], daughter of Geoffroi and Adele, wa s b o r n , s ay, 966, and married Conan I of Rennes, born about 950, who di ed i n 9 9 2 . B aldwin notes that (1) Rodulfus Glaber states that Conan ma rri ed a s i s t er of count Foulques of Anjou; (2) the Chronicle of S. Flo re nt sa y s t h at Geoffrey was son of Conan by a sister of Foulques; and ( 3 ) th e A n g evin genealogical collection states that Judith, wife of Rich a rd o f N o r mandy, was the daughter of Conan by his wife Ermengarde, daug h te r o f G e offroy of Anjou. Baldwin further notes t h a t c h r onological considerations place Ermengarde as a child of Geoffro y ' s f i r st marriage to Ad�le de Troyes. Sometimes Ermengarde and her s i s t e r G erberge are conflated into one person, "Ermengarde-Gerberga" Detlev Schwennicke, Europ�ische Stammtafeln: Stammtafe ln z u r G e s chichte der Europ�ischen Staaten, Neue Folge, Band III Teilba nd 4 ( V e r l ag von J. A. Stargardt, Marburg, Germany. 1989), Tafel 817. C ited b y W i k i pedia. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_I,_Count_of _Anjo u G e o f frey I Count of Anjou] Accessed June 6, 2017. [[Day-1904|jh d]] < / r e f > Baldwin, however, notes that "there is no good reason to id enti f y G e o ffroy's daughters Ermengarde (wife of count Conan of Rennes) a nd G e r b e rge (wife of count Guillaume IV of Angoul�me) as the same perso n, a s i s s o m etimes done #[[Anjou-5|Gerberga d'Anjou] ], d a ug h t er of Geoffroi and Adele, born, say, 968, married Guillaume IV , C o u n t o f Angouleme. She died after 988. Ademar de Chabannes states that count Guillaume (IV) was m a rr i e d t o Gerberge, sister of count Foulques ["Andegavensis" in one man u s c r i pt], who must chronologically be Foulques III. Depoin cites a cha r t e r w h ich gives the name of Guillaume's wife as Girberga. #[[Anjou-69|Foulques d'Anjou ]], or Foulques III Nerra, Count o f A n j o u , son of Geoffroi and Adele . Histori� Andeg av e n s i s names his birth year as 970, and his death at Metz on 21 Jun 10 4 0 w i t h b urial at Beaulieu-lez-Loche, Abbaye de Saint-Pierre).[Hist o r i � A n degavensis, allegedly written by Foulques IV "Rechin" Comte d'An j o u , n a mes "Goffridus Grisagonella pater avi mei Fulconis". succeeded f a t h e r 9 87 as FOULQUES III "Nerra/the Black" Comte d'Anjou.] "Fulco A n d e c a vorum comes" relinquished rights to the bishop of Angers "pro anim a p a t r i s mei Gauffredi et matris Adel�" by charter dated 17 Jan 1020. < r e f n a m e="fmgadela"/>#[[Anjou-158|Geoffrey d'Anjou]] or Geoffroi, son o f G e o f f roi and Adele. Bachrach suggests a birth year of 971. Geoffrey ("Gauzfredi filii eius") is named by his mother " A d e l a " in the 6 March 974 charter by which she donated property to Sain t - A u b in d'Angers and is living at that time Geoffrey of Anjou (971-977), died young. [ B e r n a rd S. Bachrach, Fulk Nerra the Neo-Roman Consul, 987-1040 (Unive rs i t y o f C alifornia Press, 1993), pp. 11-12. Cited by Wikipedia. [htt p s : / / en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_I,_Count_of_Anjou Geoffrey I Count o f A n j o u ] Accessed June 6, 2017. [[Day-1904|jhd]] ]
===Falsely attributed children===
Baldwin notes the following falsely attributed children:
#Bouchard (Barbatus), supposed father of Bouchard de Montmorency. Bouc h a r d i s p art of a late attempt to fabricate an origin for the house of M o n t m o rency#Ad�la�de (in fact a sister), mother of qu e e n C o n stance. One example of this comes from a late fabricated geneal o g y w h i ch was published with the cartulary of Trinit� de Vend�me. Cons t a n c e 's mother Ad�la??de was a sister of Geoffroy
===Children formerly linked which have been delinked===
#[[Ch�lons-20|Hugues (Ch�lons) de Ch�lons]], born Dijon 1030 has been s h o w n a s t he child of [[Dijon-7|Lambert]] and [[Vermandois-351|Adelaide d e V e r m a ndois]]. There are two problems with this -- (1) Lambert and Ad el a i d e w ere married to different people, and (2) Hughes was born well a f t e r t h e deaths of both of them. Therefore I have delinked Hughes from A d e l a i de.[[Day-1904|Day-1904]] 19:06, 5 March 2017 (EST)
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